The Joy of Laserdiscs

As we roll into 2012, it looks all but inevitable that video media in general will slowly and irrevocably shift into a fundamentally intangible commodity. The disks and cartridges imprinted with our favorite movies and TV shows, once a necessity, are now walking the line between luxury and liability. We’re just a couple of critical steps away from digital-only video releases being the norm, and actual physical media being relegated to the luxury/collector/fetishist/hipster/survivalist-compound market. But before that happens, I’m going to talk to you a bit about something which is the logical opposite of a digital download.

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This, dear friends, is a Laserdisc.

Not so very long ago, these things were integral to otaku culture across the globe. Before DVDs came along, laserdiscs were the gold standard of audio/video quality. Too unfathomably expensive to be anything other than an indulgence of the wealthy or obsessive, they never really gained a foothold in the western world. In Japan, however, all video media is too unfathomably expensive to be anything other than an indulgence of the wealthy or obsessive, so no one really noticed. For a fairly long time, the ultimate and definitive version of any movie or TV show was the laserdisc release.

Meanwhile, in English-language fandom, laserdiscs were coveted for their role in the fansub creation process. Before digital distribution, fansubs were already going strong, typically powered by an absurdly productive team of young people who spent all of their free time stringing VCRs together to copy tapes and then send big boxes of them through the mail with no tangible profit to show for it. Because LDs are higher quality than the capacity of VHS, and they (generally) don’t wear out over time, so it was common practice to make the “master” copy of a fansub by applying subtitles in real-time to the video feed from a laserdisc and recording that to VHS. This would give you at least one extra generation of VHS to VHS copying before the whole thing turned into an unwatchable mess. If you ever watched a fansub in the 90s and it didn’t look like ass, then there was definitely a laserdisc involved.

But those days are over. Both VHS and LD gave way to DVD, and even those are being edged out by streaming for convenience and BD for gold-standard archival quality. Laserdiscs are a good two generations removed from the mainstream, which may make them seem essentially worthless now, but I’m here to tell you that laserdiscs still have a place in the shelves of the dedicated otaku. Why? Well, think of it this way.

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In the simplest terms, you should think of laserdiscs being to video what vinyl records are to audio. Once upon a time, you got them because they were the best thing going. At least this is true of Laserdiscs in Japan. In America, you probably bought them because you wanted to show them off to your friends at the yacht club, or because the leprechauns who live in your refrigerator told you to, or some other equally fictional reason. These days you would be hard pressed to argue that either one is objectively superior to all other formats, but they may be more subjectively appealing for any number of reasons. The nostalgia factor is certainly at play here, since even if you never owned an actual laserdisc during their heyday, all the content is capped at about 1998. Regardless of whether or not it’s stuff you’ve ever seen before, there’s bound to be a certain natsukashii quality.

A word about quality here. I know that LDs essentially look like ginormous CD/DVD/BDs, and that we’ve all been trained to associate that weird wavy-rainbow-chrome with digital content, so you’d be forgiven for thinking that a 12-inch silver frisbee would naturally be full of 1s and 0s like a retro-future proto-DVD, but this is actually a common misconception. The truth is that laserdisc video is 100% analog. There’s an optional digital audio track, but by default the audio will be entirely analog as well. I have no idea how they fit the three tracks side-by-side in different formats on the same medium, I’m not a scientist, but I suspect it’s really clever in a 1978 kind of way.

I think that this misconception is the source of a lot of the tendency to dismiss laserdiscs as being utterly inferior to DVD/BD. Outside of market forces like industry adoption and intercompatibility, digital formats don’t have a lot of room for nuance. If one holds more bits than another then that one is better and we can all go home. But analog? Analog can be a little subtler. Those “richer tones” you hear LP enthusiasts going on about are all here, in the colors and details.

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Yes, laserdiscs are lower resolution than DVDs, let alone BDs, but are well above VHS or broadcast TV. They actually fit in quite nicely between VHS’s 115k pixels and DVD’s 345k, clocking in at just under 270k (for comparison, BD tops out at a little over 2 million). However, although the may lose to DVD in terms of pure resolution, it’s important to remember that they have been completely untouched by the digital process. The video you’re enjoying has never been compressed, posterized, or upsampled. There is no bitrate because there are no bits, there’s just the fucking movie.

I’d show you a side-by-side comparison, but putting it on the internet as a JPEG defeats the entire purpose. Nonetheless, hopefully when you think about them in those terms the laserdisc -> vinyl comparison makes a certain amount of sense. There’s also an inherent tactile and substantial quality that you get from having your content in a form that actually has weight and takes up space. You could fit the same stuff onto a thumbdrive or into a cloud locker, but it isn’t the same experience. This is why, despite their obvious advantages and popularity, digital media never fully replace analog media. Some people take a perverse satisfaction in being able to hold the things they own, not just take it on faith that they exist.

Beyond the discs themselves, you get the added benefits of the packaging and bonus materials. These days, even if you are shelling out for a physical disk, you’re lucky if you get a glossy one-page advertisement slipped inside a flimsy plastic case. And don’t get me wrong, I’m glad that it’s possible to buy an entire series for $30 now, and I’m completely sympathetic to the need to cut costs somewhere, but still. The transition from bubble to recession is far more apparent in ancillary materials than it is in the content, and we’re all worse off for it. For me, the world was just a more interesting place when deluxe boxed set meant deluxe boxed set, even if it did cost tens of thousands of yen.

On chance you never played this gameNote that the character guide just has 3 pictures of Ruri
Isn't she beautiful?It doesn't even have that many chapters. I mean really.

This is the Nadesico movie. It is one of humankind’s greatest achievements. The LD release comes with a book. The book is 12″ by 12″. The book has 41 pages. The book contains staff interviews, production materials, story recaps, a glossary, comprehensive character bios, a mech guide, and pages upon pages of art. The DVD release comes with a card. The card is 7″ by 5″. The card has two sides. One side has a picture on it, I guess. This is not progress, guys. This is just sad.

Part of this disparity is just due to the logistics of encasing a weighty 12″ disc. The box is going to be the size and shape of an LP sleeve out of necessity, and will likely be marginally thicker. What’s more, LDs only hold 30-60 minutes (depending on quality) of video per side, so feature-length movies are going to take up at least two discs, creating the need for even more elaborate packaging. And this space almost never goes to waste. If there are eight 12″x12″ surfaces available, you can bet that each one will have some of the best, most iconic artwork available. The packages alone become like mini-artbooks.

On top of this, because LDs pretty much always coexisted with VHS releases, they were universally presented as luxury, archival-quality copies and were priced to match. In order to entice consumers to pay the premium for these high-end editions, companies would throw all kinds of crazy junk into the box, especially for theatrical productions. After all, there’s plenty of room in the box. When you crack open an LD, you shouldn’t be surprised if you find a T-shirt, a wall clock, and a box of cookies in there.

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Now, obviously I don’t expect all of you to have a sudden epiphany and run out to start investing in ‘discs this weekend. There are, after all, some substantial barriers to entry. Getting a player is pretty straightforward, but finding a decent one will still set you back a good $50-$100 before shipping. If you live somewhere hip, you may be able to find one on Craigslist or in a local thrift store, but otherwise you run the risk of paying as much for UPS ground as you did for the actual device. Plus, no matter how much you pay and how careful you are, the damn things just don’t travel well. They’re big, they’re heavy, they’re old, and they have moving parts. I destroyed one moving from Boston to San Francisco, and then destroyed a second one moving from San Francisco to New York. It’s frustrating.

Then there’s the actual discs. They flow like water in Akihabara (and, to an ironically lesser extent, Nakano) but if you end up with more than about five then you’re in for a really awkward time taking them home again. And if you’re not prepared to take impulsive trips around the Tokyo area, the prospects are a bit more grim.

These days, eBay has become flooded with unsellable crap. Expect to wade through twenty nonconsecutive Hong Kong Ranma 1/2 discs and five identical copies of Agent Aika before seeing anything that a human being might be interested in. Yahoo Auctions has the opposite problem, where just about everything you find is likely to be absurdly valuable and sold only in an extravagant boxed set at something remarkably close to its original retail price. Starting a collection from scratch requires diligence, patience, and a certain willingness to waste money. I think it’s rewarding, but there’s no accounting for taste. Or for me.

On the other hand, if you’ve been in the scene for a while and you still have some LDs, then for pity’s sake don’t just throw them out. Recognize that they are precious remnants from another time, and that new formats can supplant the old, not just replace them. These are things worth treasuring.

Or, if you absolutely have to, just give them to me.

21 thoughts on “The Joy of Laserdiscs

  1. Ah nostalgia.
    Back in the 1990s LaserDisc was too luxurious for my family. The only time I saw one was when we were visiting my uncle’s house. He had a Kenwood LD player and as much as he tried to demonstrate how cool it was; I wasn’t impressed considering he had to wedge a folded piece of paper in the door when it was closed in order to get the thing to be able to read the disc.

    Analog video/audio is kind of a foreign concept to people these days. The youth are raised on compressed mp3 audio, crappy compressed streaming internet video, and crappy compressed cable and satellite video.
    Anyone with one of those huge 10 foot satellite dishes from the 1980s could tell you how gorgeous analog uncompressed video looked.
    These days with digital overcompressed video/audio, people don’t know what they’re missing.

  2. Excellent article! Makes me want to go hunt down an LD player. I honestly had no idea that they were analog devices, in fact.

  3. Great article! Got into LDs just last year – because I thought it would be a cheaper and more interesting alternative to DVD (One thing turned out true :D ). Rakuten sell some LDs for cheap, which got those ideas in my head, but the shipping ultimately kills it. But yes, even old LD releases which are unpleasantly full of noise and only offer analog sound in mono (Dirty Pair, anyone?) is fun to watch. It’s the perfect anime time capsule. Style, wow-factor, extra content (possibly not seen elsewhere) all rolled into one.

    My only box, so far, is the Ghost in the Shell Premium Box and it’s a little bit short on extra content but a joy to watch. Though, it does have an art gallery (technical illustrations & animation plans) at the end of disc 2 and disc 3 features a mini documentary. Otherwise, vol. 1 of Gundam: The 8th MS Team is pretty cool as it included a folder with artwork/design materials, a poster and then 1 episode per side of the disc. Awyeah.

    I’m currently looking for a new player, but I’ve got one of those industrial players and no one talks about those. So I don’t know if I’m in the middle or low-range and what could possibly be seen as an upgrade.

    Oh, and Agent AIKa? Do want.

    1. I have a LD player and 31 laserdiscs (and not the funky collectibles either, but classic movies) if you’re interested. As Pioneer no longer makes their players so it’s always good to have an extra one on hand for when the one you have quits working and there is no more place to send it for service. Interested?

  4. This reminds me that one of the coolest things about my college anime club for me was it’s vast library of old and new titles, and how the old titles included quite a few laser discs. And if necessary (rarely did it come to that), we also had an LD player that we could connect to the projector and use to see the discs on screen.

  5. I’ve always been tempted to get into Laserdiscs because honestly I’ve always found them just as cool and as interesting as this article proves they are, with the problems you mentioned standing in the way. I think it’d be worth it simply for Gunbuster, so maybe one day. 90s VHS are (sadly) cheap and abundant in second hand stores but I’ve never seen an LD, if I did I might have to buy it.

    1. I have a LD player and 31 laserdiscs (and not the funky collectibles either, but classic movies) if you’re interested. As Pioneer no longer makes their players so it’s always good to have an extra one on hand for when the one you have quits working and there is no more place to send it for service. Interested?

  6. Hi Seya!

    I live in Japan, Tokyo area and recently decided to buy a Laserdisc player and, of course Laserdiscs. I had this idea for a long time, basically since Laserdisc came out and was new, but never had the money, time or right situation (I was moving a lot between countries). Anyway I decided finally I am going to start a LD collection.

    You write that Laserdiscs “flow like water” in Akihabara. Well I remember around 2005 it was still very easy to get most mainstream videos for around 300 – 500 yen in shops like Traders and many others in Akihabara. Most used book/manga/anime/pr0n shops in Akihabara had at least one box sitting around with this stuff.

    Nowadays, I find it very hard to find any. Maybe I am not going to the right shops. Are there any shops you can recommend in Akiba to get Laserdiscs? I am looking for Anime but also for mainstream movies. Thanks.


  7. The concept of digital audio makes sense, but isn’t video, with finite fps, pixels, and pixel states digital by definition?

    1. Absolutely not.

      Video does have finite frames, those frames do have finite points, and those points are made up of finite colors, but this does not mean that video is inherently digital.

      Because of those things, it is possible to perfectly describe any video digitally, the same way it’s possibly to describe any still photo digitally, but that does not imply that all photography is a digital process. Nor does it imply that making a perfect digital edition of a video or a photo is necessarily simple or practical, especially in 1985.

      VHS was a purely analog video format, as I’m sure you know. THe video track on a laserdisk is similar to a VHS tape (but with significantly higher quality) that just happens to be using optical lasers instead of magnetics to store and retrieve information.

      Does this make sense?

  8. Amazing article!
    I saw many (crappy quality VHS) animes in the middle 90’s, but unexpected, the tape’s quality rise up, probably because the fansubbers used Laserdisc and put the subtitles directly over the video. I saw this, they used an Commodore Amiga 500 and a Laserdisc player.

    This proccess made me a vague idea for the superior quality of the Laserdisc has.
    fluid movements, rich colors, no Macroblock Pixels present on the horrible DVD compression…men I really want a Laserdic player! and some titles, but they don’t have subtitles in spanish or english.

    Some day I’ll get one and I’ll see the “only” Star Wars trilogy, plus Terminator 2.

    Regards from Chile!

  9. After collecting Laser Discs since 1980 nothing comes close to the packaging

    and the presentation like a vinyl Lp cover than Laser Disc .

    Also the sound is better than digital dvd I have some music Laser Discs and the sound

    would leave dvd for dead. I also have been told that Laser Disc sound is better than blu ray. I would not be suprised. I have been told that Laser Disc one day may go into production. we can all only hope that happens . Long Live the Laser Disc.

  10. Analog is inherently superior to digital. One scanline (horizontal lines) of ONE frame in a laserdisc movie contains potentially millions of colors, whereas even 1080p bluray can only do.. you guessed it, 1,080 colors per horizontal line. Analog is and always will be superior to digital.

    Thank god i woke up and saw the huge ass lie. No wonder everyone toutes about vinyl and ANALOG PHOTOGRAPHY. they are simply better. Analog synthesizers are better sounding as well. Anything other than analog is either for archiving data, communications or convenience. Attempting to replace the quality of analog with pixels requires mental gymnastics, ignorance and blind faith. Analog simply cannot be compete with as it does not chop all the information up into tiny squares on your screen.

    DVDs, blurays and even 4k video all have pixels. THey are digital, therefore they have pixels. YOu should all be able to understand this by now. Now, in one frame of any movie of your choosing, a bluray 1080p disc and a HDTV can ONLY display 1,080 colors per line of horizontal resolution, whereas laserdisc and VHS can potentially display MILLIONS of colors per SCANLINE.

    There are such things as HD laserdiscs as well, but in my opinion are only marginally better looking than standard laserdiscs and generally are not mastered well as there are only about 35 titles for it i think? These laserdiscs are 1125i, not the standard 425i for standard laserdisc, however these HD laserdiscs are ANALOG AND NOT DIGITAL. So we could compare this for instance to 1080p bluray.

    The result is that despite NOW having a smaller and THINNER space to count colors in than standard laserdisc, the 1125i HD ANALOG laserdisc still beats bluray and can STILL potentially display MILLIONS OF COLORS PER SCANLINE, whereas AGAIN, bluray can ONLY display 1,080 colors per line of resolution as it is DIGITAL. CRT televisions are analog and obviously can display as many colors as you want wherever. Theoretically.

    You think you don’t notice because you never bothered to. You are not interested in technology you are interested in consuming the hipster culture. There are studies showing that bluray movies, as well as DVDs and the LCD display systems are hazardous to your health. I’m not saying the flicker rate of a CRT is any healthier for you by itself, but at least you can watch analog light come from it. It is AT LEAST enjoyable. Everytime I look at a 4k projection screen in a movie theater i wanna puke. You gotta be way in the back row to just barely get through the movie without paying attention tot he pixels.

    Seriously what is wrong with people having to bully the analog lovers? I don’t have a problem with bluray or dvd i watch them a lot actually despite the studies. I just don’t think they are the latest and greatest because i understand the technology. I respect digital video and i probably watch youtube more than anything (obviously anything on the internet is DIGITAL) but I am not such a hipster that I have to bow down to this bully culture of “we’ll burn you out of your house if you like vinyl better than cd”.

  11. I picked up a Panasonic player for a song recently that plays both sides of a disc automatically. The Thrift store didn’t even know what it was and called it a dvd changer! Discs too are sometimes mixed in with records at Thrift stores by those who don’t know what they are and thus can cost as little as 77¢ or less. But what I really love is buying opera and ballet laserdiscs on eBay for a fraction of the price of DVD’s or Blu-rays. For example, I recently ordered 8 of these with shipping for $19. That’s a lot less than any one of them would be in more modern formats. And every time I find a bunch of laserdiscs cheap in a Thrift store, it’s like getting a present. I got 11 the other day at a Goodwill for $16.61. I may even try selling the ones that aren’t worth keeping for $3 each or more if I can get it. Overall, I am loving the whole experience. But again, what really makes owning one worthwhile is getting Swan Lake or La Boheme for ¼ of the retail price if you are into classical music and ballet.

    1. I have a LD player and 31 laserdiscs (and not the funky collectibles either, but classic movies as well as some rare operas) if you’re interested. Also as Pioneer no longer makes their players so it’s always good to have an extra one on hand for when the one you have quits working and there is no more place to send it for service. Interested?

  12. I got into LD a year and half ago. I’m a movie buff. No i’m a movie ENTHUSIAST. This past weekend I celebrated Raiders of the Lost Ark with my mom and dad at a boutique theater in Tampa. I have 440 titles in digital HD on my plex server plus another 100 or so in SD. But i collect LDs. Look if I want to enjoy a movie at max res…thats what plex is for. But sometimes you just want to open that huge tray and drop 12 inches of memories into the tray and play it.

    1. Hey Steve! We were originally from Tampa so we know what you mean about the arts and boutique theaters! Stay dry (we are hearing about the rain & hurricanes there about now). Anyway we have a LD player and 31 laserdiscs (and not the funky collectibles either, but classic movies) if you’re interested. As Pioneer no longer makes their players so it’s always good to have an extra one on hand for when the one you have quits working and there is no more place to send it for service. Interested?

  13. Just picked up a Phillips LD and Sony receiver today at Portland Retro Game conference. $60 total with a thrown bundle of Speed, Last of the Mohicans, Snow White, Home Alone and Hunt for Red October. Already have a solid library from early 90’s but loved the adds. Next move is to crank the sound, put in Terminator 2 and relive my youth.

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